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Dictionary.com:

ออกเสียง Idea = “ahy-DEE-uh” or “ahy-DEEuh

ออกเสียง concept = “KON-sept” 

ออกเสียง notion = “NOH-shuhn”


Dictionary of Problem Words and Expression

Ideal – concept – notion

 

Any thought existing in the mind 

may be called anIdea, concept, or notion.


The most widely used of these words idea,

should be applied to thoughts 

that are serious or elaborate:

 

The surgeons weighted the idea of an immediate operation.

The idea of armed conflict is frightening.”


A concept (or conception

suggests a thought that is complete, detailed, and even intricated:

The artist’s concept of portrait painting is highly unorthodox.”

 

A notion is a fleeting, vague, hastily formed, or imperfect thought:

I had no notion this is what you were planning.”


Recommendation:

use notion for an idea 

that has not been pondered and weighted;

use idea or concept for important thoughts 

that have been given serious attention.

 

Occasionally try substituting for idea (the generally used term)

By such words as 

opinion, belief, view, conviction

theory, hypothesis, or whim.

 

Any word that you use may be as vague as idea,

but you will avoid overworking a threadbare term.


 

Common Error in English Usage Dictionary:

Idea & Ideal

Any thought can be an idea

but only the best ideas worth pursuing are ideals


 

The A-Z of Correct English Common Errors in English Dictionary:

Idea & Ideal

Bristolians have particular difficulty 

distinguishing between these two 

because of the intrusive Bristol ‘l’. 

 

These exemplar sentences should help: 

Your IDEA is brilliant. 

This is an IDEAL spot for a picnic. 

His IDEALS prevent him from eating meat.

 

Dictionary.com:

HISTORICAL USAGE OF IDEA

English idea comes from one of Seneca’s Epistles (58), 

written about a.d. 64 during his retirement from Emperor Nero’s court, 

in which the Roman philosopher uses idea 

in the sense of “Platonic idea, eternal archetype.

 

Seneca wrote idea in Latin letters; 

the Roman orator Cicero, about a hundred years earlier, 

wrote the same word, with the same meaning, 

but in Greek letters. 

 

Plato used the perfectly ordinary Greek noun idéa 

“form, shape” as a term in logic 

meaning “classification, principle of classification,” 

and in his own metaphysics to mean “ideal form, prototype.” 

 

In fact, the earliest uses of idea in English 

show semantic overlap with ideal. 

The familiar and current meanings 

having to do with a mental conception, notion

or image first appeared in the late 16th century.

 

The Greek noun idéa comes from 

the very common, very complicated 

Proto-Indo-European root weid-, woid-, wid- “to see.” 

 

In Greek the variant woid- forms the verb oîda 

(woîda in some dialects), meaning “I know.” 

(In form, oîda is a perfect tense used 

to show a present state: “I have seen, I know.”)

 

Woidos, a noun derived from woid-, 

becomes veda- “knowledge” in Sanskrit 

(Rig-Veda means “knowledge of the hymns, sacred stanzas”). 

 

The variant wid- forms the Greek noun idéa, 

and the infinitive ideîn (also wideîn), the Latin infinitive vidēre, 

and the Slavic (Czech) vidět, all meaning “to see.”

Weid-, woid-, wid- become wīt-, wait-, wit- in Germanic. 

The suffixed form wīt-to- forms the adjective wīsaz, 

Old English wīs (English wise), 

and Old English wīsdōm “learning” (English wisdom).

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

HISTORICAL USAGE OF NOTION

The English noun notion 

“general understanding, opinion” 

comes from Latin nōtiō (stem nōtiōn-), 

a derivative of the verb nōscere “to know” and -tiō, 

an abstract noun suffix here denoting a state 

(rather than an action). 

In the comedies of Plautus, 

nōtiō meant “acquaintance (with a person).” 

In legal and juridical language, 

nōtiō meant “examination, inquiry (by a magistrate).” 

 

The usual meaning of notion 

we owe to Cicero, the Roman orator, 

statesman, and man of letters, 

who created a technical philosophical vocabulary 

for Latin almost single-handedly 

in order to translate concepts in Greek philosophy. 

 

In his Topica (31), 

Cicero explains his usage of nōtiō : 

“I mean by notion what the Greeks call énnoia 

[‘thinking, reflection, notion, concept’] 

or prólēpsis [‘preconception, mental picture’].”

 

The plural notions 

“small articles, such as buttons, thread, ribbon, etc., 

displayed together for sale” was an Americanism 

that first appeared in a Philadelphia newspaper in 1796.

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Choose the Right Synonym for idea

IDEA, CONCEPT, CONCEPTION, THOUGHT, NOTION, IMPRESSION 

mean what exists in the mind as a representation 

(as of something comprehended) 

or as a formulation (as of a plan). 

 

IDEA may apply to a mental image 

or formulation of something seen or known or imagined, 

to a pure abstraction, 

or to something assumed or vaguely sensed. 

innovative ideas 

my idea of paradise 

 

CONCEPT may apply to the idea 

formed by consideration of 

instances of a species or genus or, more broadly, 

to any idea of what a thing ought to be. 

a society with no concept of private property 

 

CONCEPTION is often interchangeable with CONCEPT

it may stress the process of imagining 

or formulating rather than the result. 

our changing conception of what constitutes art 


THOUGHT is likely to suggest 

the result of reflecting, reasoning, or meditating 

rather than of imagining. 

commit your thoughts to paper 

 

NOTION suggests an idea 

not much resolved by analysis or reflection 

and may suggest the capricious or accidental. 

you have the oddest notions 


IMPRESSION applies to an idea 

or notion resulting immediately from 

some stimulation of the senses. 

the first impression is of soaring height

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Choose the Right Synonym for ideal


Noun

MODEL, EXAMPLE, PATTERN, EXEMPLAR, IDEAL 

mean someone or something set before one for guidance or imitation.


MODEL applies to something taken 

or proposed as worthy of imitation. 

a decor that is a model of good taste 



 

EXAMPLE applies to a person to be imitated 

or in some contexts on no account to be imitated 

but to be regarded as a warning. 

children tend to follow the example of their parents 

 

PATTERN suggests a clear 

and detailed archetype or prototype. 

American industry set a pattern for others to follow 

 

EXEMPLAR suggests either a faultless example 

to be emulated or a perfect typification. 

cited Joan of Arc as the exemplar of courage 

 

IDEAL implies the best possible exemplification 

either in reality or in conception. 

never found a job that matched his ideal 


Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Choose the Right Synonym for concept

Noun

IDEA, CONCEPT, CONCEPTION, THOUGHT, NOTION, IMPRESSION 

mean what exists in the mind as a representation 

(as of something comprehended) 

or as a formulation (as of a plan). 

 

IDEA may apply to a mental image 

or formulation of something seen 

or known or imagined, to a pure abstraction, 

or to something assumed or vaguely sensed. 

innovative ideas 

my idea of paradise 

 

CONCEPT may apply to the idea 

formed by consideration of instances 

of a species or genus or, more broadly, 

to any idea of what a thing ought to be. 

a society with no concept of private property 

 

CONCEPTION is often interchangeable with CONCEPT;

it may stress the process of imagining 

or formulating rather than the result. 

our changing conception of what constitutes art 

 

THOUGHT is likely to suggest the result 

of reflecting, reasoning, or meditating 

rather than of imagining. 

commit your thoughts to paper 

 

NOTION suggests an idea not much resolved 

by analysis or reflection and may suggest 

the capricious or accidental. 

you have the oddest notions 

 

IMPRESSION applies to an idea or notion 

resulting immediately from some stimulation of the senses. 

the first impression is of soaring height

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Choose the Right Synonym for notion

IDEA, CONCEPT, CONCEPTION, THOUGHT, NOTION, IMPRESSION mean what exists in the mind as a representation 

(as of something comprehended) 

or as a formulation (as of a plan). 

 

IDEA may apply to a mental image 

or formulation of something seen 

or known or imagined, to a pure abstraction, 

or to something assumed or vaguely sensed. 

innovative ideas 

my idea of paradise 

 

CONCEPT may apply to the idea 

formed by consideration of instances of 

a species or genus or, more broadly, 

to any idea of what a thing ought to be. 

a society with no concept of private property 

 

CONCEPTION is often interchangeable with CONCEPT

it may stress the process of imagining 

or formulating rather than the result. 

our changing conception of what constitutes art 

 

THOUGHT is likely to suggest the result 

of reflecting, reasoning, or meditating 

rather than of imagining. 

commit your thoughts to paper 

 

NOTION suggests an idea not much resolved 

by analysis or reflection and may suggest 

the capricious or accidental. 

you have the oddest notions 

 

IMPRESSION applies to an idea or notion 

resulting immediately from some stimulation of the senses. 

the first impression is of soaring height

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Words at play

Concept

Concept [verb]: to conceive; especially: 

to create the initial idea for a design, product, or story

If you'd rather avoid it: 

Conceive; create the concept

 

Jargon can seem forced or artificial 

if you’re not part of the group that uses a given term, 

especially if the term seems redundant or unnecessary

 

Concepting is a fancy way of saying conceiving

It's particularly seen in creative professions and marketing, 

where the noun form of concept gets thrown around a lot.


There is some history to concept's use as a verb

though it has always been rare in English. 

Most evidence dates to the 1600s, 

when it was used as a synonym for conceive. 

 

Conceive had been in use for centuries by that time, 

but the spelling of concept shows a closer relationship 

to the ultimate Latin root of both words, concipere, 

which appealed to pedants 

who wanted to make the Latin elements in English 

as transparent as possible.

 

This doesn't make concepting any more transparent 

for readers today. 

After all, which sounds better: 

"From the concepting stage" or "from conception"?


Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Usage Notes

On 'Idyll' and 'Ideal'

Both might describe your country getaway, but in different ways

 

What to Know

Idyll refers to a work of prose 

that describes rustic or pastoral scenes. 

This is different from the adjective ideal 

whose meaning ranges from "perfectly suitable" 

to "exemplifying a standard of perfection." 

From "idyll" we get "idyllic" 

which means "pleasing in its natural simplicity" 

and for some idyllic scenes are ideal.


When something is described as idyllic, 

it’s pleasing in its natural simplicity, 

much like a pastoral scene.


Idyll and Idyllic Meaning

Idyllic is based on the noun idyll

which is a short work of poetry or 

prose that describes rustic life or pastoral scenes, 

or it can be a narrative poem that treats 

an epic, romantic, or tragic theme. 

The latter sense applies in the title of 

Alfred, Lord Tennyson’s Idylls of the King, 

a retelling of the King Arthur 

legend by way of a collection of twelve poems.

 

Ideal Meaning

Idyll sounds very much like our more common adjective ideal, 

which is related to the noun idea. 


Something that is ideal is perfectly suitable, 

or it literally adheres to the idea of what is beautiful or excellent.


Ideal can also be a noun 

for anything that exemplifies a standard of 

perfection, beauty, or excellence:

 

Usage Together

Maybe due to the fact that 

people often find rustic or pastoral scenes very desirable 

in their simplicity, one might, on occasion, 

be tempted to confuse idyll with ideal. 

But the confusion doesn’t show up frequently in these words.

Sometimes, however, 

an author might juxtapose them, 

creating the impression that they are related:

 

Perhaps more revealing is the occasionally seen 

use of the mashup adjective idealic to echo idyllic, 

with a meaning that in some instances approach “ideal” 

but in others “suggestive of an idyll.”

 

Sometimes what might have been uttered 

as idyllic gets transcribed as idealic:

 

The writers here are almost certainly thinking of idyllic 

but are probably influenced by the notion that 

the romance or vacation in question 

meets one’s idea of a perfect example of those things. 

 

A more common adjective 

related to ideal is idealistic, 

which means 

“pertaining to one who is guided 

by ideals often at the expense of practical considerations,” 

and which describes us 

when we imagine everyone on the Internet 

living in idyllic harmony after reading our usage advice.