Block YouTube โดย ICT
จากสอง blog ที่ดิฉันเขียนถึงการ block YouTube (ขอย่อง่ายๆ ว่า YT แล้วกันค่ะ) ไปแล้วใน
คุณ m ได้เข้ามาแสดงความเห็นไว้ด้วยแล้ว ยิ่งทำให้ดิฉันอดตั้งข้อสังเกตเพิ่มไม่ได้ว่า
โดยส่วนตัวแล้ว ประเด็นของดิฉันมีอยู่ว่า
- การ block ไม่ใช่หน้าที่ ICT
- ICT ทำถูกแล้ว ที่ต้องประท้วงไปที่ YouTube (ไม่ว่าจะผ่านวิธีใดก็แล้วแต่)
- YouTube เองแม้จะมีผู้แจ้งให้ลบ แต่ดันผ่าไม่ลบ ผู้ให้บริการแบบนี้นี่ มันคบไม่ได้จริงๆ
- ถ้าเรา "รักและเคารพ" ในหลวงท่านจริง เราต้องร่วมมือกันเป็น User Sanction ค่ะ ด้วยการช่วยกันประท้วงไปที่ YouTube เพื่อให้องค์กรนั้น ลบ file ทั้งไป (ก็ยังไม่เรียกว่าให้ block อยู่ดี ให้ลบ ไม่ใช่ให้ปิดกั้น)
- ดิฉันได้ปรึกษากับคุณวันฉัตร (Webmaster Pantip.com) แล้วเราก็เห็นด้วยกันว่า User ไทยๆ ทั้งหลาย ประท้วงกันอย่างอหิงสา ต่อการกระทำของ YouTube/Google ผ่านหน้าเว็บ pantip.com หรือจะทำเว็บประนามการกระทำของ YouTube (ที่ไม่ยอมลบตามคำขอร้อง) ให้เป็นที่ประจักษ์ต่อ internet user ทั่วโลก
และ update ล่าสุด
- มีผู้แจ้งแล้วว่า user ผู้โพสต์นั้น ได้ทำการเข้าไปลบไฟล์นั้นเรียบร้อยแล้ว
- มีการร่ำลือว่า มิใช่ user นั้นเป็นผู้ลบ, แต่มีการ hack สู่ account ของ user นั้น แล้วไปลบไฟล์เอง (ขอให้พิจารณาให้ดีก่อนตัดสินใจ)
- YouTube ก็ยังทำเป็นทองไม่รู้ร้อนอยู่ดี ไร้น้ำใจเป็นอย่างยิ่ง, จริงอยู่ว่าไฟล์นั้น อาจจะไม่ break US law, หรือ ไม่ใช่การละเมิดลิขสิทธิ์ (ดูเหมือนว่า YT ห่วงเรื่องละเมิดลิขสิทธิ์ มากกว่าหมิ่นประมาทแฮะ)
- ขณะนี้มีไฟล์หมิ่นพระบรมฯ เพิ่มขึ้นอีกไฟล์, ปรากฏใน YT เรียบร้อยแล้ว (แม่มมมมม เซ็งจิต - ขออภัยในคำสบถ)
แนะนำ link รวมรายชื่อต่อต้าน YT ค่ะ
ร่วมกันประณาม google ที่ไม่ยอมลบคลิปตัดต่อหมิ่นในหลวงออกจากเว็บ Youtube
ส่วน Term Of Use ของ YT ก็ดูจะห่วงเรื่องของการละเมิดลิขสิทธิ์ (ทรัพย์สินทางปัญญา) มากกว่าห่วงเรื่องการโพสต์ไฟล์หมิ่นประมาทเสียอีกค่ะ
Don't Cross the Line
Here are some common-sense rules that will help you steer clear of trouble:
- YouTube is not for pornography or sexually explicit content. If this describes your video, even if it's a video of yourself, don't post it on YouTube. Also, be advised that we work closely with law enforcement and we report child exploitation. Please read our Safety Tips and stay safe on YouTube.
- Don't post videos showing dangerous or illegal acts, like animal abuse, drug abuse, or bomb making.
- Graphic or gratuitous violence is not allowed. If your video shows someone getting hurt, attacked, or humiliated, don't post it.
- YouTube is not a shock site. Don't post gross-out videos of accidents, dead bodies and stuff like that. This includes war footage if it's intended to shock or disgust.
- Respect copyright. Only upload videos that you made or that you have obtained the rights to use. This means don't upload videos you didn't make, or use content in your videos that someone else owns the copyright to, such as music tracks, snippets of copyrighted programs, or videos made by other users, without their permission. Read our Copyright Tips for more information.
- We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view. But we don't permit hate speech which contains slurs or the malicious use of stereotypes intended to attack or demean a particular gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, or nationality.
- There is zero tolerance for predatory behavior, stalking, threats, harassment, invading privacy, or the revealing of other members' personal information. Anyone caught doing these things may be permanently banned from YouTube.
Please take these rules seriously and take them to heart. Don't try to look for loopholes or try to lawyer your way around them—just understand them and try to respect the spirit in which they were created. Violations of the Terms of Use may result in a warning notification or may result in termination of your account and deletion of all your videos. We decide whether we believe your violation of our Terms of Use should result in termination of your account. If you have an account terminated you are prohibited from ever signing up for another account!
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5. User Submissions
A. The YouTube Website may now or in the future permit the submission of videos or other communications submitted by you and other users ("User Submissions") and the hosting, sharing, and/or publishing of such User Submissions. You understand that whether or not such User Submissions are published, YouTube does not guarantee any confidentiality with respect to any submissions.
B. You shall be solely responsible for your own User Submissions and the consequences of posting or publishing them. In connection with User Submissions, you affirm, represent, and/or warrant that: (i) you own or have the necessary licenses, rights, consents, and permissions to use and authorize YouTube to use all patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights in and to any and all User Submissions to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service; and (ii) you have the written consent, release, and/or permission of each and every identifiable individual person in the User Submission to use the name or likeness of each and every such identifiable individual person to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service. For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions. However, by submitting the User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service. The foregoing license granted by you terminates once you remove or delete a User Submission from the YouTube Website.
C. In connection with User Submissions, you further agree that you will not: (i) submit material that is copyrighted, protected by trade secret or otherwise subject to third party proprietary rights, including privacy and publicity rights, unless you are the owner of such rights or have permission from their rightful owner to post the material and to grant YouTube all of the license rights granted herein; (ii) publish falsehoods or misrepresentations that could damage YouTube or any third party; (iii) submit material that is unlawful, obscene, defamatory, libelous, threatening, pornographic, harassing, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive, or encourages conduct that would be considered a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, violate any law, or is otherwise inappropriate; (iv) post advertisements or solicitations of business: (v) impersonate another person. YouTube does not endorse any User Submission or any opinion, recommendation, or advice expressed therein, and YouTube expressly disclaims any and all liability in connection with User Submissions. YouTube does not permit copyright infringing activities and infringement of intellectual property rights on its Website, and YouTube will remove all Content and User Submissions if properly notified that such Content or User Submission infringes on another's intellectual property rights. YouTube reserves the right to remove Content and User Submissions without prior notice. YouTube will also terminate a User's access to its Website, if they are determined to be a repeat infringer. A repeat infringer is a User who has been notified of infringing activity more than twice and/or has had a User Submission removed from the Website more than twice. YouTube also reserves the right to decide whether Content or a User Submission is appropriate and complies with these Terms of Service for violations other than copyright infringement and violations of intellectual property law, such as, but not limited to, pornography, obscene or defamatory material, or excessive length. YouTube may remove such User Submissions and/or terminate a User's access for uploading such material in violation of these Terms of Service at any time, without prior notice and at its sole discretion.
D. In particular, if you are a copyright owner or an agent thereof and believe that any User Submission or other content infringes upon your copyrights, you may submit a notification pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") by providing our Copyright Agent with the following information in writing (see 17 U.S.C 512(c)(3) for further detail):
(i) A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed;
(ii) Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site;
(iii) Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material;
(iv) Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact you, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail;
(v) A statement that you have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; and
(vi) A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that you are authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
YouTube's designated Copyright Agent to receive notifications of claimed infringement is: Heather Gillette, 1000 Cherry Ave., Second Floor, San Bruno, CA 94066, email: [email protected], fax: 650-872-8513. For clarity, only DMCA notices should go to the Copyright Agent; any other feedback, comments, requests for technical support, and other communications should be directed to YouTube customer service through http://www.google.com/support/youtube. You acknowledge that if you fail to comply with all of the requirements of this Section 5(D), your DMCA notice may not be valid.
E. You understand that when using the YouTube Website, you will be exposed to User Submissions from a variety of sources, and that YouTube is not responsible for the accuracy, usefulness, safety, or intellectual property rights of or relating to such User Submissions. You further understand and acknowledge that you may be exposed to User Submissions that are inaccurate, offensive, indecent, or objectionable, and you agree to waive, and hereby do waive, any legal or equitable rights or remedies you have or may have against YouTube with respect thereto, and agree to indemnify and hold YouTube, its Owners/Operators, affiliates, and/or licensors, harmless to the fullest extent allowed by law regarding all matters related to your use of the site.
F. YouTube permits you to link to materials on the Website for personal, non-commercial purposes only. In addition, YouTube provides an "Embeddable Player" feature, which you may incorporate into your own personal, non-commercial websites for use in accessing the materials on the Website, provided that you include a prominent link back to the YouTube website on the pages containing the Embeddable Player. YouTube reserves the right to discontinue any aspect of the YouTube Website at any time.
สุดท้ายนี้ ดิฉันว่า ICT น่าจะประสานงาน ไปที่ YT เพื่อขอ log file มาดูว่า มือโพสต์นั้นมันเป็นใคร อ้างอิงจาก
YouTube Privacy Notice
The Information YouTube Collects
- User Provided Information: You provide certain personally identifiable information (such as your name and email address) to YouTube when choosing to participate in various activities on the YouTube Sites such as uploading videos, posting messages in our forums or in the video comments section, entering contests or sweepstakes, taking advantage of promotions, responding to surveys, or subscribing to newsletters or other mailing lists.
- Cookies Information: When you visit the YouTube Sites, we may send one or more cookies - a small text file containing a string of alphanumeric characters - to your computer that uniquely identifies your browser. YouTube uses both session cookies and persistent cookies. A persistent cookie remains after you close your browser. Persistent cookies may be used by your browser on subsequent visits to the site. Persistent cookies can be removed by following your web browser help file directions. A session cookie is temporary and disappears after you close your browser. You can reset your web browser to refuse all cookies or to indicate when a cookie is being sent. However, some features of the YouTube Sites may not function properly if the ability to accept cookies is disabled.
- Log File Information: When you use the YouTube Sites, our servers automatically record certain information that your web browser sends whenever you visit any website. These server logs may include information such as your web request, Internet Protocol ("IP") address, browser type, browser language, referring / exit pages and URLs, platform type, number of clicks, domain names, landing pages, pages viewed and the order of those pages, the amount of time spent on particular pages, the date and time of your request, and one or more cookies that may uniquely identify your browser.
- Clear GIFs Information: When you use the YouTube Sites, we may employ "clear GIFs" (a.k.a. Web Beacons) which are used to track the online usage patterns of our Users anonymously (i.e., in a non-personally-identifiable manner). In addition, we may also use clear GIFs in HTML-based emails sent to our users to track which emails are opened by recipients.
ตอนนี้มีกระทู้ประนามเรื่องนี้มากมาย จนอ่านไม่ทัน ถ้าพวกเราไม่พอใจกันจริงๆ ดิฉันว่า เราควรจะเข้าชื่อเพื่อประท้วง YT ค่ะ .. ไม้เล็กๆ 1 ขิ้น ถูกหักทิ้งง่ายดาย แต่เมื่อไม้เล็กๆ เหล่าันั้นรวมตัวกันเป็นไม้ฟ่อนใหญ่ได้ ใครจะมาหัก ก็ต้องคิดใหม่แล้วค่ะ ..
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Offensive YouTube clip 'removed by user'
BANGKOK, Thailand (Reuters) -- The anonymous creator of a 44-second video clip mocking Thailand's revered king removed it from the YouTube video-sharing Web site on Thursday after torrents of abuse from outraged Thai viewers.
The relevant page on YouTube said simply the video had "been removed by the user".
However, Communications Minister Minister Sitthichai Pookaiyaudom said Bangkok's army-backed administration would continue to block YouTube (www.youtube.com) as two images deemed offensive remained.
"We want those photos off the site too," he told Reuters.
Earlier, Sitthichai accused YouTube, owned by Internet search engine Google, of being heartless and culturally insensitive for refusing to remove the file.
"We have told them how deeply offended Thais were by the clip, but they said there was much worse ridicule of President Bush on the site and they kept that there," he said.
"I don't think they really care how we feel. Thailand is only a tiny market for them."
The video showed grainy pictures of King Bhumibol Adulyadej, the world's longest-reigning monarch, whom many of Thailand's 63 million people regard as a semi-divine "father of the nation", with crude graphics superimposed on his face.
The most offensive image to Thais was the imposition of a pair of woman's feet, the lowest part of the body, on his head.
YouTube, which has dominated the user-generated online-video market since it was founded in February last year, said it was disappointed by Bangkok's move and was "looking into the matter".
"YouTube reaches a wide global audience and strives to provide a community where people from around the world can express themselves by sharing videos in a safe and lawful manner," the company said in an e-mail response to Reuters.
Criticizing or offending royalty is a serious crime in Thailand. Those found guilty of lese majeste can be jailed for up to 15 years.
Last week, a 57-year-old Swiss man was sentenced to 10 years in jail for spraying graffiti on pictures of the king on his birthday in December, a rare prison term for a foreigner.
However, the generals who ousted elected prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra in a coup last September have also used the lese majeste laws to stifle criticism of themselves or their actions.
Several Web sites calling into question the southeast Asian nation's 18th coup in 75 years of on-off democracy have been shut down by the army-installed government.
When reports of the offending royal YouTube clip emerged in Thailand, the number of views rocketed by 50,000 in less than 24 hours, according to the site's own data.
It generated a lively debate about freedom of expression although the main reaction from Thais was shock and outrage -- and torrents of abuse at the clip's creator, "paddidda", who is based in the United States.
Copyright 2007 Reuters. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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อ่านจบอย่างเซ็งๆ ค่ะ
- ตอนนี้มีเป็นสิบแล้วครับ
- คนเป็นการยากที่จะให้คนต่างชาติเข้าใจสถาบันพระมหากษัตรย์ในประเทศไทยครับ
ที่จริงถ้าจะแก้ควรจะเเก้ที่ คนมากกว่า
ทำอย่างงี้เหมือนเราไปยุให้คนอื่นทำอย่างงี้มากขึ้นไปอีก
lol, here it IS THAI MINISTER.
minister of mict can only think like this.
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use proxy!!!
you know what if you want to have ict block any website, just put something bad in there.