Reasons why SSS/OLPC was suspended.
I start SSS/OLPC since the beginning. At that time the objective of OLPC was big different from now. I submit my project and it was accepted. In 2006, my SSS/OLPC got award in “the 1st World Cups for Computer Implemented Invention”.
SSS/OLPC was suspended 3 years ago because new project I submitted did not approved by the new committee.
Objective of SSS/OLPC were:
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To get rid off slavery system.
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To make OLPC to reach super computing.
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To reduce the world band width w/o need higher technology.
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To make the poorest kids to go “WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE”
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To make a life much easier to live.
But I realized that new OLPC objectives are:
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To force the poor to get rid off BG slave but becoming OLPC slave instead
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To make OLPC to be simply a kid toy w/o useful enlightment applications.
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To burn the world band with by introducing new harmful technologies.
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To make the poorest kids to sit in new religion of sugar things.
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To make a life to be difficult to live.
At this moment, based on AHAT support, AHAT allow all the poor to reach happier life “WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE” by giving you already 3 work shops:
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At Wang Nam Khew long time ago.
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At my office for public persons
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Ay my office for AHAT secretary and Aj. Paiboon
The 4th work shop will be happenned on October 22, 2010 at Vajiranusorn building KU BKK Thailand at 09.00 to 12.00 with limited seats. If you want to join it please bring your lap top with wifi in. I set access point for you.
That is the most I can do. To help you up to your gizzard level.
IMO: to write .doc is useless and no one use to use it. Also, I have no ability to type it in TH and I have zero person to type it. Even my son refuse to help me.
Regards,
zxc555
There are a lot of rhetorics and hyperbolas around OLPC. It is very confusing to new comers.
As a newbie, I think if we can cut the craps, get to the dry bones and repeatable results, we can then see what we can and can't do --to help--.
I think joining your workshop is a good idea but unfortunately we can't all drop everything else and go. I for one can, at the present time, only learn from documents, source code and forums/blogs.
[I appreciate your documentation problems. I have been dealing with mine for some time.]
Can you point to the url with the latest source code that can be downloaded?
I develop OLPC based on Slackware base. Most page on slackware source is below:
http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/
For my old OLPC image, I put it at:
http://supat.eu.org/OLPC/
You have to have XO-1.0 to use that image.
I am sure that .img cannot work on new X0 1.5
Other explicit knowledge you can get it from git of OLPC.
good luck,
zxc555
ps If you are developer you will understand my above messages well.
It was useless for users but valuable only to developper.
For users, the best solution is attending my work shop.
Thanks for the info on OLPC in Thailand.
OLPC seems to take Fedora Linux as the official base. But you used Slackware Linux. Why?
Unfortunately, I don't have the older XO 1.0. Before I spend more time (and money), does Thai OLPC image support Thai word processing (input, display and print)?
I don't have enough data yet. But my gust feeling is that Thailand's OLPC is going nowhere and probably gets pushed aside by cheaper iPads (and the like) or small (ARM or ATOM based) notebooks or old laptops with NX/FreeNX (to a local server -- at school?). The solution for computing power for kids in Thailand may depend more heavily on telecommunication and battery cost and availability rather than specific hardware-software-distributor setup. What do you think?
Your questions are very good.
If you can join NX server workshop please ask these questions.
It will help participants to understand what is going on.
You ask why it was used fedora instead of slackware.
My reply is because they has hidden argenda to force the poor kids to be their slave instead after they can get rid off slavery from BG.
The only genuine open source is slackware, all other distro always has hidden secret that hard for newbies to follow it. That is why they choose fedora.
You ask if mine SSS/OLPC slackware image did support Thai?
Answer: YES. It was not only support Thai but also support several things where no man has gone before, eg. UsbVGA, Bluetooth, R, Matvec and NX clients.
Official OLPC in the world today is simply a toy to force the poor to use sugar.
But mine SSS/OLPC is a super computer that perform above any desk top.
I will use SSS/OLPC as a tool to teach NX server work shop on Oct 22.
iPad, iPhone, andriods and other MAD devices cannot beat OLPC.
Because OLPC is cheaper but more powerful.
At this moment OLPC cost only $75 while iPad cost $699
And FYI: Any thing iPad can do then OLPC already did it at higher performance
Because OLPC is none profit organization so they did it at minimum cost but Android made it for money so they sell it at maximum profit.
Only one bad point of OLPC is they did opposite to my vision and so not support my project.
In my history, it was proven that only me is the person who made not only obsoleted pc but also MAD in the future to rech super computing at minimum cost.
Unfortunately, powerful persons never support me.
I got used to it.
What I can do now is simply “UU BEK KHA”
Regards,
zxc555
Please confirm that
by "SSS/OLPC image" for OLPC XO 1.0 (laptop) you mean:
(a) You have compiled (using Jhbuild) a Slackware Linux kernel 2.6.xx.nn into a kernel image or
(b) You have a hard-drive disk image of SSS/OLPC (based on a Slackware Linux kernel and an applications set as released under OLPC's Sugar interface, ...)
(c) this 'image' is not good on any other computer apart from XO 1.0 laptop (because of Jhbuild).
(d) this image contains Thai word processing software that allows what-you-see-is-what-you-get drawing, editing, printing and naming (files) documents in Thai.
(e) SSS/OLPC includes Thai, English, Thai-English off-line dictionaries.
(f) SSS/OLPC can easily and wirelessly connect to the Internet/Intranet or as a client to a server or a cluster computer system elsewhere.
(g) This SSS/OLPC software image can be rebuilt (if we try) to work on XO 1.5, XO 3.0, and many other (new and older) computers.
I hear that OLPC is rolling out XO 1.5/Sugar laptops and talking about XO 3.0. I hear that there are teams of developers working on making Sugar and OLPC's software set for Linux distributions like Mandriva, Mint, Debian/Ubuntu,... and a team working on Sugar on USB-stick. I hear that 'thin client' technologies may allow mobile phones, tablets, etc (ARM and ATOM based devices) to work with powerful servers. I also hear that India is working on USD35 (THB1000) computer tablet for kids.
I tested NX - (N : multiple) X-windows desktop sharing - by running meTV on a FreeNX server and watching it from an old laptop NX client. The picture was jittery and the sound came out on the server - not the client. So, multimedia services on NX clients flopped.
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BTW, the Pali word "upekkhā" (u pek khaa : neutrality; equanimity; indifference : PTS - the Pali Text Society distionary) matches closely in spelling to your "uu bek kha" but not quite in meanings.
Please confirm that
by "SSS/OLPC image" for OLPC XO 1.0 (laptop) you mean:
(a) You have compiled (using Jhbuild) a Slackware Linux kernel 2.6.xx.nn into a kernel image or
NO! I did not use Jhbuild but build my own kernel that support more than OLPC eg Bluetooth, usbvga, etc
(My kernel support things more than OLPC kernel)
(b) You have a hard-drive disk image of SSS/OLPC (based on a Slackware Linux kernel and an applications set as released under OLPC's Sugar interface, ...)
NO! NOT HD image but NAND jffs2 image ready to burn into NAND.
(c) this 'image' is not good on any other computer apart from XO 1.0 laptop (because of Jhbuild).
NO! not because Jhbuild but because of firmware will fitted only to XO 1.0
(d) this image contains Thai word processing software that allows what-you-see-is-what-you-get drawing, editing, printing and naming (files) documents in Thai.
YES! it support full WYSIWYG TH word processor plus Thai KDE Konsole (support Thai on Konsole)
(e) SSS/OLPC includes Thai, English, Thai-English off-line dictionaries.
YES!
(f) SSS/OLPC can easily and wirelessly connect to the Internet/Intranet or as a client to a server or a cluster computer system elsewhere.
YES.
(g) This SSS/OLPC software image can be rebuilt (if we try) to work on XO 1.5, XO 3.0, and many other (new and older) computers.
YES. Because it has full slackware app.
I hear that OLPC is rolling out XO 1.5/Sugar laptops and talking about XO 3.0. I hear that there are teams of developers working on making Sugar and OLPC's software set for Linux distributions like Mandriva, Mint, Debian/Ubuntu,... and a team working on Sugar on USB-stick. I hear that 'thin client' technologies may allow mobile phones, tablets, etc (ARM and ATOM based devices) to work with powerful servers. I also hear that India is working on USD35 (THB1000) computer tablet for kids.
YES! you are right.
OLPC can do all thing MAD can do plus can do all thing pc can do.
I tested NX - (N : multiple) X-windows desktop sharing - by running meTV on a FreeNX server and watching it from an old laptop NX client. The picture was jittery and the sound came out on the server - not the client. So, multimedia services on NX clients flopped.
I can port sound to NX client. I disable sound on server I made. That why you cannot hear the sound.
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BTW, the Pali word "upekkhā" (u pek khaa : neutrality; equanimity; indifference : PTS - the Pali Text Society distionary) matches closely in spelling to your "uu bek kha" but not quite in meanings.
Thank you FYI:
I prefer karaoke Eng 55555 because I don't want to waste time to look what Rajabundit said.
I am strongly against Rajabundit methods.
Regards,
zxc555