2022-03-09 ศัพท์ น่าสับสน - Set – E - exact & same


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2022-03-09

ศัพท์ น่าสับสน - Set – E - exact & same

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Dictionary.com:

ออกเสียง exact = “ig-ZAKT” 

ออกเสียง same = “SEYM

 

Common Errors in English Usage Dictionary:

exact 

In casual speech we often say things like

“The fruitcake he gave me was the exact same one I’d given him last Christmas,” 

but in formal English the phrase isexactly the same.

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Choose the Right for exact

Verb

Demand, Claim, Require, Exact 

mean to ask or call for something as due or as necessary.

Demand implies peremptoriness and insistence and often the right to make requests that are to be regarded as commands.  

          demanded payment of the debt

Claim implies a demand for the delivery or concession of something due as one's own or one's right.  

          claimed the right to manage his own affairs

Require suggests the imperativeness that arises from inner necessity, compulsion of law or regulation, or the exigencies of the situation.  

          the patient requires constant attention

Exact implies not only demanding but getting what one demands.  

          exacts absolute loyalty 

 

Adjective

Correct, Accurate, Exact, Precise, Nice, Right 

mean conforming to fact, standard, or truth.

Correct usually implies freedom from fault or error.  

          correct answers   

          socially correct dress

Accurate implies fidelity to fact or truth attained by exercise of care.  

          an accurate description

Exact stresses a very strict agreement with fact, standard, or truth.  

          exact measurements

Precise adds to Exact an emphasis on sharpness of definition or delimitation.  

          precise calibration

Nice stresses great precision and delicacy of adjustment or discrimination.  

          makes nice distinctions

Right is close to Correct but has a stronger positive emphasis on conformity to fact or truth rather than mere absence of error or fault.  

          the right thing to do 

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Did you know?

Exact derives from a form of the Latin verb exigere

meaning "to drive out, to demand, or to measure." 

(Another descendant of exigere is the word exigent, 

which can mean "demanding" or "requiring immediate attention.") 

Exigere, in turn, was formed by combining 

the prefix ex- with the verb ageremeaning "to drive." 

Agere has been a prolific source of words for English speakers

it is the ancestor of agentreactmitigate, and navigate,

just to name a few

 

Incidentally, if you are looking for a synonym of the verb exact,

you could try demandcall forclaim, or require.

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Do you exact or extract revenge?

Verb

The verb exact (as in, "exacting revenge" or "exacting a promise") 

is not as commonly encountered as the adjective exact,

(as in "an exact copy" or "exact measurements"). 

Sometimes people will mistakenly use 

the more common verb extract when they really want exact. 

 

Extract can refer to removing something by pulling or cutting

or to getting information from someone who does not want to give it.

While both words refer to 

getting something they are used in different ways

          You extract a tooth, but you exact revenge.

 

Collins COBUID English Dictionary: 

same - similar

Same is almost always used with the.

1. 'the same'

If two or more things are the same, they are alike.

All the streets look the same in the fog.

Essentially, all computers are the same.

 

2. 'the same as'

You say that one thing is the same as another thing.

He was not the same as the other boys.

The next day was the same as the one before.

 

Be Careful!
Don't use any preposition except as after the same in sentences like these.

Don't say, for example, 'He was not the same like the other boys'.

You can put a noun between the same and as

You can say, for example, 'She goes to the same school as her sister'.

Her dress was the same colour as her eyes.

I'm in the same type of job as you.

 

You can also use the same as to compare actions

For example

you can say 'She did the same as her sister did'

or just 'She did the same as her sister'.

He said exactly the same as you did.

They've got to earn a living, the same as anybody else.

 

3. adverbs used with 'the same'

The following adverbs are often used in front of the same

exactly, nearly, almost,

practically, virtually.

The next time I saw him he looked exactly the same.

Their policies are practically the same as those of the previous government.

 

4. 'similar'

If two people or things are similar

each one has some features that the other one has.

The two friends look remarkably similar.

Our ideas are basically very similar.

 

You say that one thing is similar to another thing.

It is similar to her last book.

My dress is similar to that, only longer.

 

You can use similar in front of a noun 

when you are comparing a person or thing 

to someone or something else that has just been mentioned.

Many of my friends have had a similar experience.

Put them in a jar, bowl, or other similar container.

 

5. adverbs used with 'similar'

The following adverbs are often used in front of similar:

broadly Rather roughly surprisingly Quite
remarkably strikingly very  

Their proposals were rather similar.

My problems are very similar to yours.

 

Dictionary.com:

SYNONYM STUDY FOR SAME

SameSimilar 

agree in indicating a correspondence between two or more things. 

Same means alike in kind, degree, quality

that is, identical (with): 

          to eat the same food every day; at the same price. 

Similar means like, resembling, having certain qualities in common, somewhat the same as, of nearly the same kind as: 

          similar in appearance; 

          Don't treat them as if they were the same when they are only similar.

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Choose the Right Synonym for same

Adjective

Same, Selfsame, Very, Identical, Equivalent, Equal 

mean not different or not differing from one another.

Same may imply and Selfsame always implies that the things under consideration are one thing and not two or more things.  

          took the same route   

          derived from the selfsame source

Very, like Selfsame, may imply identity

or, like Same may imply likeness in kind.  

          the very point I was trying to make

Identical may imply selfsameness or suggest absolute agreement in all details.  

          identical results

Equivalent implies amounting to the same thing in worth or significance.  

          two houses equivalent in market value

Equal implies being identical in value, magnitude, or some specified quality.  

          equal shares in the business

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Usage Notes

'Exact Same': A Useful Idiom

It's redundant but harmless.

It's easy to nitpick the use of the phrase 

"the exact same" as being redundant

After all, if two things are said to be the same, 

they resemble each other in every respect 

and, thus, they are exact.

 

However, redundancy is only part of the issue with "exact same."

(Please, hear us out.)

 

For one thingexact appears to be modifying the adjective same, 

in which case exact would then be an adverb 

(much like very in "I have the very same sweater"). 

Considering that the expression "exact same" 

is a truncation of "exactly the same," 

in which exactly functions as an adverb, that's reasonable. 

 

But here's the catch

unlike exactlyexact is not an adverb

Thus, the use of exact is purely idiomatic

—that is, it doesn't fit into normal rules of syntax.

It is also possible to interpret 

both exact and same as adjectives modifying a noun. 

The two words of the phrase are often transposed

—for instance, you may encounter "the same exact thing."

 

Such interchangeability strongly suggests that 

both words are functioning as adjectives

In addition, other adjectives also 

sometimes occur with same in similar constructions, 

such as "the same identical."

 

If they are both adjectives

they certainly can be called redundant, but is redundancy all that bad?

Writing handbooks will tell you that, yes, it is; 

however, at times, it can be useful. 

Words that mean essentially the same thing

are often used together for emphasis

and, in some cases, their occurrence is so commonplace 

that they are overlooked as redundant 

and are considered ... well, harmless at the very least. 

 

For example,

take the following: 

"future plans," 

"mix together," 

"completely surrounded," 

"close proximity," 

"past history," 

"refer back,"

"final destination/result." 

Common and generally acceptable constructions, right?

 

"Exact same" tells the reader or listener that you mean same 

in its most literal sense 

and do not mean that the two things 

are simply very similar but are exact

 

Ultimately, whether exact in "exact same" is a redundant adjective 

or an idiomatic adverb is of secondary importance. 

 

The primary question is 

whether the phrase is used by educated speakers and writers, 

and the answer to that question is yes. 

 

"Exact same" is, in fact, 

extremely common in speech and in informal writing

and its use in suitable contexts cannot be called inappropriate. 

 

Here are some examples:

The exact same treatment that is able to thwart breast cancer 

has a dark side—it can fuel the spread of the disease to the lungs.
— USA Today, 1 Oct. 2017

 

Of course you're free to complain if it still bothers you, 

but we'll just have the exact same answer.

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