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2022-02-09

ศัพท์ น่าสับสน - Set – D - discreet & discrete 

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Dictionary.com:

ออกเสียง discreet & discrete = “dih-SKREET” 

 

Dictionary of Problem Words and Expressions:

discreet & discrete

The word pronounced alike, have entirely different meanings.

To be discreet is to be prudent, cautious, careful, trustworthy, circumspect” 

“Never one to talk much, she kept a discreet silence.”

“The late President Truman often referred to George Marshall as a discreet official.”

Discreet means, “separate,” “distinct,” “apart,” “detached”:

“This question consists of six discreet parts.”

“Manufacturing, advertising, selling, and collecting payment are discreet divisions of this business.”

 

Common Errors in English Usage Dictionary:

discreet & discrete

The more common word is “discreet,” 

meaningprudent, circumspect”: 

“When arranging the party for Agnes, be sure to be discreet; we want her to be surprised.” 

“Discrete” means “separate, distinct”: 

“He arranged the guest list into two discrete groups: meat-eaters and vegetarians.”

Note how the T separates the two Es indiscrete.

 

The A-Z of Correct English Common Errors in English Dictionary:

discreet & discrete

You are DISCREET if you can keep secrets and behave diplomatically.

Subject areas are DISCRETEif they are quite separate and unrelated.

 

Dictionary.com:

HISTORICAL USAGE OF DISCREET

Discreetmeaningjudicious, prudent, modest,”

comes partly from Middle French discret “prudent, discerning,”

used in Anglo-French in the sensewise person.” 

The Latin source was discrētus, past participle of the verb discernere 

“to separate, distinguish, mark off, show differences between.” 

 

In Late Latin discrētus also acquired the senseprudent, wise,” 

possibly arising from association with the noun discrētiō, 

which shows a similar semantic development

physical separation to discernment to capacity to discern.


Discrete, “apart or detached from others; separate; distinct,” 

was originally a spelling doublet of discreetsharingmeanings 

and both deriving from the same Latin source. 

The spelling discrete is closer in form to Latin discrētus 

and is probably an attempt to differentiate discreet from discrete.


The Middle English Dictionary has two senses 

at the headword discrēt(e): 

the sensewise, morally discerning, prudent, circumspecthas 29 citations; 

the senseseparate, distinct” has four (in angelology, astronomy, and mathematics).


It wasn’t until the late 16th century 

that discrete became restricted to its present meanings

leaving the spelling discreet to predominate in its own current uses.

 

Dictionary.com:

DISCREET VS. DISCRETE

What’s the difference between discreet and discrete?

Discreet most commonly 

means tactful, prudent, or careful to avoid revealing things that may cause embarrassment, 

such as when communicating sensitive information, 

as indiscreet message or You can tell her, but be discreet about it

Discrete means separate or distinct

as in discrete concepts or discrete parts.

Less commonly, discreet can also 

mean unobtrusive—a modest necklace may be described as discreet. 

 

In all cases, the word discreet is used in situations 

in which an effort is made to avoid calling attention to someone or something. 

When you’re being discreet, you’re showing discretion.

 

Discrete, on the other hand

is typically used in technical, non-personal contexts

It has more specific meanings in the context of math and statistics.

 

Here’s a fun way to remember the difference

in discreet, the two e’s are right next to each other

—the one e looks like it’s discreetly whispering something in the other’s ear

In discrete, the two e’s are kept separate by the t in the middle.

 

Here’s an example of discreet and discrete used correctly in a sentence.

Example

He mistakenly thought the two parts were discrete, but I told him that they are in fact connected—in a discreet way, of course.

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Words at Play

When To Use "Discrete" vs "Discreet"

Definitions and Examples for Easily Mixed-up Words

What to Know

Discrete means "separate," 

while discreet means "unobtrusive." 

Both words have the same etymology 

coming from the Latin discretus 

which means "to keep separate" or "to discern." 

An easy trick to tell them apart is to remember 

is that the "e's" are separated by the "t" in "discrete."

 

True,

yakking on your cellphone while your tablemate sits idly is poor form

but the error sharp-eyed readers will catch

is the use of discrete to mean "unobtrusive" or "unnoticeable." 

Discrete means "separate"; 

the writer and editor probably meant to use its homonymdiscreet.

 

Discrete vs Discreet Origins

Confusion of these two words is fairly common.

Both discrete and discreet come from the very same Latin word, discretus, which was the past participle of the verb that 

meant "to separate" and "to discern." 

Both discrete and discreet came into English in the 14th century, with discrete getting a bit of a head-start on discreet.

 

Here's where things get dicey

Discrete is used a handful of times in the 14th century, 

then drops out of common use until the 16th century. 

Discreet, meanwhile, takes off

drawing on the "discerning" sense of its Latin root. 

But in the 14th and 15th centuries, spelling wasn't fixed, 

which meant that the word we know of 

as discreet was spelled as both discreet and discrete

 

When the modern discrete came back into style in the 16th century, 

the spellings of the words diverged: 

discrete and discreet became fixed as separate words

and their meanings remain separate, despite the confusion between them.

 

Which should you use? 

Remember that in discrete, the t separates the e's,

so discrete means "separate.

For "unobtrusive", use discreet.

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Commonly confused words Vol.  2

Discrete/Discreet

Question:

Does the process involve a number of discrete or discreet steps?

Answer:

discrete

How to remember it:

Try this one: "discrete" means "separate" 

- so picture 

the letter "e," divided from its twin in both discrete and separate.

 

Discreet has an entirely different meaning: 

it's often used to describe something not likely to be seen or noticed 

(e.g., "He made discreet inquiries about the job").

 

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Choose the Right Synonym for discrete

Distinct, Separate, Discrete 

mean not being each and every onethe same.

Distinct indicates that something is distinguished 

by the mind or eye as being apart or different from others.  

two distinct versions

Separate often stresses lack of connection or a difference in identity between two things.  

separate rooms

Discrete strongly emphasizes individuality and lack of connection.  

broke the job down into discrete stages