อนุทิน #109185

Daily Buddha Vacana
June 7th

Malunkyaputta said to the Lord: “Sir, as I was meditating, this thought came to me: ‘Those speculative views about the world, whether it is finite or infinite, whether it is both or neither; those speculative views about whether the soul is the same as the body or different from it; those speculative views about whether the Tathagata exists after death or does not, whether he both exists and does not exist, whether he neither exists nor does not exist; the Lord has not addressed these views, he has sidestepped them and ignored them.’ Sir, if you do not explain these views for me, I will leave this training.  If you know the answers to these questions, you should explain them to me.  And if you don't know, then it would be honest and say so.”

“But Malunkyaputta, did I ever say to you: ‘Come, be my disciple, and I will answer all these questions for you?’ ”

“No, sir.”

“Then, did you ever say to me: ‘I will become your disciple only if you answer all these questions?’ ”

“No, sir.”

“So, who are you and what is your complaint, you foolish man?  If one were to say that they would not become my disciple until all these views had been explained by me, he might be dead before it could be done.  It is as if a man had been shot by a poisoned arrow and his friends might get a doctor to help him.  And he might say: ‘Wait!  I do not want the arrow removed until I know the name of the man who shot it, what caste he is, whether he is short or tall, fat or thin.  I do not want the arrow removed until I know whether the bow that shot the arrow was a spring bow, a crossbow or a longbow.  I do not want the arrow removed until I know whether the bow was made from reed, wood or bamboo, or whether the head of the arrow was a calf-tooth head, an ordinary head, a jagged head or an iron head.’ Long before all these questions could be answered, that man would be dead.  In the same way, if someone were to say that they would not become my disciple until all the questions about whether the world is infinite or not were answered, they might be dead before it could be done.  Living the holy life could not be said to depend upon whether the world is infinite or not, whether it is both infinite and finite, whether it is neither infinite nor finite or any of the other questions.  Whether the world is infinite or not, there is birth, there is aging, there is dying, there is grief, sorrow, suffering, lamentation and despair, and it is for the ending of this that I teach.  Therefore, understand as not explained what has not been explained by me, and understand as explained what has been explained by me.  And what has not been explained by me?  All these speculative views that you ask about.  And why?  Because it is not connected with the goal, it is not fundamental to the holy life, it does not conduce to good, to turning away, to fading, to calming, to higher knowledge or to Nirvana.  And what has been explained by me?  The Four Noble Truths.  And why?  Because it is connected with the goal, it is fundamental to the holy life, it does conduce to good, to turning away, to fading, to calming, to higher knowledge and to Nirvana.

-- M.I,426

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คำตอบว่าโลกจะแตกหรือไม่ มิได้นำมาซึ่งหนทางพ้นทุกข์.. ทำให้คิดถึง หลายข้อถกเถียง นิยาม ที่หาข้อสรุปมิได้ ก็มิได้เป็นทางสู่การแก้ปัญหาเลย

ผมแว่วๆ ว่าเคยอ่านมาจากไหน นึกไม่ออก สงสัยจะเป็น What the Buddha Taught ของ Walpola Rahula ที่อ่านเมื่อ ๓๐ ปีก่อน

ํYou foolish man ....แล้วผมก็นึกออกว่า พพจ. นี่แหละที่เป็นต้นฉบับทำให้ผมชอบด่าคนว่า "โง่" (ซัดความผิดให้พพจ.. บาปหนักเลยนะเนี่ีย)

คนที่ชอบด่าแบบอ้อมๆ ว่า คนอื่นโง่ นั้นคือ ท่าน ทาสของพพจ. ท่านมักชอบเกริ่นนำ หรือ เกริ่นตาม ว่า พูดแบบนี้คนฉลาดก็พอเข้าใจ แต่คนโง่เขาก็คงไม่เข้าใจหรอก หาว่าเราเพี้ยน ....ท่านใช้มุกนี้บ่อยมาก

ผมว่ามันเป็นจิตวิทยาการสอนอย่างหนึ่ง ถ้าคนมีระดับพูดได้ มีผลดี

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