15 years of (free?) education in Thailand
Children in Thailand are expected to spend 15 years (from 3 to 18 years of age) in 'institution' to 'correct' their deficiencies in 'skills' and literacy. This period of detention and de/re-skilling is 'mandatory' -- parents can be prosecuted for not sending their children to school. Results in recent years show 'abject failures' of institutional skilling detention, much the same as for corrective institution (jail term sentences).
What are the common traits among teachers and warders? What make them (both teachers and warders) fail at reskilling their 'prisoners'?
Knowledge and giving knowledge is no longer a prime reason for educational detention (for 15 years). The speed of searching for Internet knowledge is getting closer to recalling from our own memory, it is not 'essential' to 'install' into memory the 'data' but the 'processes' (algorithms).
What processes/skills should children be trained (not only taught but trained to a level of experience in "doing"/sensing)?
What are essential skills for children (and --later-- adults) to be contributing members of society? What are essential traits of our society and the 'vision and mission' of the society?
How (many years) long should our children be detained in (governmental, so-called educational) institution for to trained for the skills essential for our society?
[View: All we know of Mathematics, Sciences, Economy, ... knowledge is classified by 'area of applications' but not by 'skills required to exercise the knowledge'; much like we know of 'lung' cancer, 'breast' cancer, 'liver' cancer -- cancers are classified by 'site' or location of occurence but not by 'nature' or 'properties' of cancer cells. We spend much time making 'basic skills' different in different 'subjects' and create many facades (wrappings) for basic skills -- we are confused by the facades and can no longer see the 'fundamental' of basic skills. Ask a doctor, how they treat 'a' cancer ;-) .]
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ดร. จันทวรรณ ปิยะวัฒน์
เขียนเมื่อตอบยากจริงๆ ค่ะ แต่ถ้าตอบจากใจคนเป็นแม่ที่มีลูกอายุสี่ขวบครึ่ง อยากให้ลูกมีทักษะในการคิด ฟัง พูด อ่าน เขียน ค่ะ เป็น basic skills ของมนุษย์ที่ต้องมีค่ะ
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Dr. Ple
เขียนเมื่อ- ทักษะ... ต้องใช้เวลา... ในการเรียนรู้ + พัฒนาการ
- ขึ้นกับ==>
1. บริบท ...
2. ของเ็ด็ก ร่วมกับ ผู้ปกครอง
3. ผู้ปกครอง
4 . สถานศึกษา +
5 . ภาครัฐ +
6. สังคมนั้นๆๆ Ok..ด้วย....ต้องจริงจัง กับการแก้ปัญหา
7. เป็น กฎหมาย (บังคับใชhไหม?)
8. ความต้องการ /ไม่ ต้องการ.....?
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sr
เขียนเมื่อWhen our children is young we want them to have the reading, writing, speaking and listening skills (not necessary in that order). Most children can do all that and even do arithmatics, draw, paint, sing, swim, ride bicycle, play many complex (logical/management) games, biology, geography, physics, history, religions, and many technologies by the time they are 10.
From there on children are subjected to 'conditioning' to learn many 'theoretical skills' (most are fundamentally 'historical data' ) instead of to discover their own abilities and the way they want to live their life.
We are talking 4-7 years to learn basic skills and we are wasting the rest of years (manpower, hidden opportunities, under utilized resources) of our children.
What do you think?
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sr
เขียนเมื่อHi Somsri
Yes to all that!
Education is one application of fundamental skills.
In a head hunting society, we would expect children to learn to tell who are on our side and who we can hunt. They would learn how to hunt or kill without getting killed in the process.
In a fishing society, children would learn about drowning and swimming very quickly. They would learn to read tides, currents, winds and weathers and so on.
Context of their lives within their family and community and society are all important when we want them to be ;-)
But we can talk about "some basic" or "fundamental" skills and some complex combinations of these basic skills. If we look at programming (organizing a set of basic instructions to a task), we can see that we have a limited number of basic instructions but we have infinitely many programs using just those few instructions.
What if we train our children to programme (life) using a few basic skills?
[Complex systems may be understood or made simple by 'abstracting' components, functions and (connecting) flows. Most human "work" can be abstracted and reprogrammed for robots.]
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